みなさん、こんにちは！ The phrases we introduced in today's lesson were pretty difficult. :S If you have any questions, please ask them below!

Konnichiwa Ramsunil,

Thank you for the comment.

といっても：although; I say that, but...

というより：rather than; more〜than〜

というと：when you say, speaking of

Please check following grammar points for more details.

https://www.japanesepod101.com/learningcenter/reference/grammar/316?

https://www.japanesepod101.com/learningcenter/reference/grammar/311?

https://www.japanesepod101.com/learningcenter/reference/grammar/526?

Sono

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what is the difference between といっても v/s というより v/s といと ?

Márcio Rodrigoさん、こんにちは！

コメントどうもありがとうございます。

はい。「価格競争の激しい中」は「激しい価格競争の中」と同じことです。

この「中」は "in the middle of" という意味で正しいですよ。

It is equal to「価格競争が激しい中」, but we often switch "が" to "の" in phrases that modify a noun (中 in this case).

For example,

足の速い人 (person who runs fast)

彼の言っていること (what he is saying)

Hope this helps!

Sincerely,

Miho

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こんにちは、皆さん！

「お蔭様で、価格競争の激しい中ですが、何とか来年には200店目をオープンできると思われます。」の「価格競争の激しい中」について質問ですが、この部分は「激しい価格競争の中」と同じ意味ですか？

I'm a bit confused about the usage of 「中」.

Could we translate as "in the middle of a violent a violent price competition"? It seems to me that's not case. That why I'm writing for you.

手伝ってくれますか？

ありがとう！

wael-san,

actually, when we use というより and/or というか, we don't deny the first statement 100%.

It's a partial denial. I'm sorry; this was my bad. I didn't explain this part in my previous comment.

Your sentences are about the time of the meeting, and this can

only be one way or another (i.e. the meeting starts at 5 or 7; one of those).

There's no information about change of schedule here. So please don't be confused.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work with time of the meeting.

Natsuko (奈津子),

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-というよりは

１）かいぎは5時というより、７じです。

２）かいぎは5時というか７じです。

first sentence denies what someone was by expected/believed.

someone inform me that the time of meeting has been changed.

second sentence denies what has been said( the first statement.).

someone denies what been said about the time of meeting.

that is correct?

wael-san,

I think your first example sentences should be

昨日パイをつくった。というか、作るのを手伝った。

昨日パイをつくった。というより、作るのを手伝った。

Basically, both have the same function.

However, in most cases, というか denies the first statement.

Natsuko (奈津子),

Team JapanesePod101.com

昨日パイを使った、というか使うのを手伝った。

昨日パイを使った、というより使うのを手伝った。

yesterday,I made a pic, or rather I helped to make a pie.

-lesson notes

すずしいというよりさむい

すずしいというかさむい

"It's cold rather than cool."

田中教授は学者というよりビジネスマンだ。

田中教授は学者というかビジネスマンだ。

"Professor Tanaka is a businessman rather than a scholar."

wael san,

Do you have any example sentences?

Yuki 　由紀

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what is difference between "toiuka"&"toiu yori"?

wael-san,

1. I'm not 100% sure what exactly the points, so let's make the list before making sentences.

(This process is very important, so do this always.)

- You think Messi is skillful than Cristiano Ronaldo.

- Both Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are famous. (Or did you want to say Messi is famous for his skill?)

- You like both Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Are these correct?

If so, I don't think "it's needless to say which one I like more" is unnecessary.

In your sentence, you chose to use というより but it seems this is not the right one to use

if those points above are what you wanted to say.

Will you maybe clarify what your points are? Without knowing what exactly you want to say,

we can't correct your sentences.

2.

～には、～と思われる。indicates the speaker’s a conjecture .

～（は）、～と思われる。indicates the speaker’s thoughts or feelings

is that,correct?

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Both expresses the same thing; the only difference is ～には and ～は part, but this doesn't have

anything to do with meaning of ～と思われる part.

3.

the dialog in lesson notes

何とか来年には200店目をオープンできると思われます。

とおもわれる here is apassive or Omowareru that means “to seem,” “to appear,” or “apparently,”?

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It's not a passive; it's "to seem", "to appear", "it's thought", "apparently" etc. kind of meaning.

4.

と思われる is used only for speaker’s conjecture ,but not for third person’s conjecture .right?

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you're right.

Natsuko (奈津子),

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サッカでクリスティアーノロナウド [というより]リオネル・メッシは有名[は言うまでもなく]上手だ[と思われます]。でも、どちらもすきだから、どちが一番すきなの[は言うまでもない]。

not to mention that in the soccer messi is skillful rather than ronaldo cristiano,but , i like both of them.so, It's needless to say that which one i like more?.

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～には、～と思われる。indicates the speaker's a conjecture .

～（は）、～と思われる。indicates the speaker's thoughts or feelings

is that,correct?.

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the dialog in lesson notes

何とか来年には200店目をオープンできると思われます。

とおもわれる here is apassive or Omowareru that means "to seem," "to appear," or "apparently,"?

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と思われる is used only for speaker's conjecture ,but not for third person's conjecture .right?

wael-san,

what do you want to say with your Japanese sentence?

Please provide English translation.

As to the meaning of とおもわれる, that's correct.

Natsuko (奈津子),

Team JapanesePod101.com

the using those expressions is correct?

サッカでクリスティアーノロナウド [というより]リオネル・メッシは有名[は言うまでもなく]上手だ[と思われます]。でも、どちらもすきだから、どちが一番すきなの[は言うまでもない]。

[Informal sentence] + と + おもわれる

-when use おもわれる .it means "to seem," but not "to resemble"?

Jembru さん、

いい質問ですね！

英語のevenほど強い意味はありません。でも、少し近いですね。:smile:

「よりも」の方が、比べている２つのものを「引き離す」イメージがありますよ。

でも、それを気にしないで使う人も多いです。

Natsuko(奈津子),

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最初にコメントを書くのは私ですか？すごいですね！＾＾

ちょっと質問があります。レッスンノートには「Aというより（はorも）B」は書いてあります。この「も」はほかの「より」が使われた文に時々見かけます。例えば、「AはBよりも背が高いです」。この文章は「AはBより背が高い」と同じ意味ですか？「も」が使われた場合いは「A is EVEN taller than B」というニュアンスがありますか？

よろしくお願いします