関西弁：なんでやろか

[7daytrial]

I've heard/read that comedy in Japan is funnier in the Kansai-ben dialect. Why is that?

Also, what is the translation of なんでやろか？

[arrowisland]

I think because Kansai-ben is just generally more "rougher" sounding than regular Japanese, and a lot more animated as well. Thus it's better suited to comedy. Add that to the fact that the Yoshimoto group (one of, if not the most famous comedy companies) is based in Osaka and people tend to associate the two together now.

[jkeyz15]

my guess is なんでだろうか

[josiah]

yes
やろう is the kansai version
of だろう

I think because Kansai-ben is just generally more "rougher" sounding than regular Japanese

i disagree
i would say it sounds more "smoother"
more natural
the だ in standard japanese
is harder than the やin kansai japanese
so standard japanese
sounds more rough

i would say
people from kansai are
generally more
easy going and friendly
than people from tokyo

[7daytrial]

So is this the correct translation:

なんでやろか -> I wonder why?

[Jason]

So is this the correct translation:

なんでやろか -> I wonder why?

Yep.

Actually Kansai-ben is both smoother and rougher at the same time. Soundwise, it's definitely more fluid than standard Japanese. But I think a lot of Japanese, at least outside of Kansai, find it to be a bit unrefined when compared to standard Japanese. I imgine it's somewhat similar to the view of a Southern US accent to non Southerners in the US.

Personally, I love how Kansai-ben sounds. I love its fluidity and playfulness. It has almost a musical ring to it. I'd actually like to be able to speak it.

[Elfunko]

I dunno about the comparison of a southern accent in the US. I suppose if its a intelligent, more city southern. But if your talkin backwater hick 10 person town thick heavy southern you gonna need to look more into Aomori and Hokkaido. Osaka-ben has a lot more intonation and modulation than the north which is generally Inaka-poi. But I do agree Kansai-ben does sound rougher than Kanto-ben, unless your talking about a yakuza using Kanto-ben...

[Jason]

I never claimed it was a perfect analogy. Besides, I haven't been to the North much, so I'm not familiar enough with how they talk up there to make comparisons. Having lived in the South all my life, I actually don't know that many people who talk with a real thick accent. I know I don't.

I'm from a town of about 50 people, btw.

[markystar]

all the city comparisons are interesting here...

my girlfriend is from aomori, but she was raised speaking perfect 標準語 and altho she likes comedians who are from osaka and uses a few words that have slipped into common parlance, she always makes a point of telling me that osaka-ben is 下品.
as for me, i think all dialects are freakin' awesome and i'm researching a bit about osaka-ben in preparation for the day we can actually do a series of culture classes on it (just a matter of time!!).
but since i live in tokyo, i'm a bit partial to the dialects that fall under the traditional strongholds of the 江戸幕府 (most notably, kanto and tohoku dialects).

[Elfunko]

Well, she didnt say it directly, but IMO Osaka is a little higher up on the 'class' social structure than Tsugaruben for a ton of reasons that Im sure you already know. Ah well, if it wasnt seen as 'lower' than normal Japanese then it wouldnt be 'cool'. Just like black english or latino english in America.

[jkeyz15]

I'm from a city/area of about 100,000 (about 30,000 actually in the city). We are big enough to be classified as metropolitan, but we're somewhere at the bottom of the list.

But, my town is in the South, so there are still many people who go hunting and stuff and have the accent,......but it's not as thick as other places I've been too. But I think many or most talk pretty plainly, I guess...

Yeah....sorry for the slightly off-topic post.