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Passive Verb Endings- Do these get further conjugated?

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Passive Verb Endings- Do these get further conjugated?

Postby Outkast » January 14th, 2007 5:19 am

Say you have the passive form of a verb, like 見られる。 When using these in a sentence, do you additionally conjugate it, or is it good as is?

What I mean is, if I say "That guy was seen" or 「あいつ見られる」、do I need to add anything to 見られる? Like make it into 見られりました、 or is that double-conjugation (and wrong)?

Also, what about the same question with potentials (like 見させる)?

Thanks for any and all help!

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Re: Passive Verb Endings- Do these get further conjugated?

Postby Bueller_007 » January 14th, 2007 6:37 am

No, you have to continue to agglutinate. Adding one suffix that means "passive" doesn't prevent you from adding another one that means "polite" or "past tense".

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Postby Outkast » January 15th, 2007 12:18 am

Gotcha. Thanks.

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Postby Bucko » January 16th, 2007 2:41 pm

あいつ見られる = that guy is seen/that guy will be seen
あいつは見られた = that guy was seen

Another thought, is using the informal あいつ together with the formal ます form considered strange?

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Postby Outkast » January 16th, 2007 10:15 pm

Bucko wrote:あいつ見られる = that guy is seen/that guy will be seen
あいつは見られた = that guy was seen

Another thought, is using the informal あいつ together with the formal ます form considered strange?

No telling on that last one... I've used rude, informal speech for a long time before I was finally blessed with the "proper" way to speak. Does possibly seem a little strange though.

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Postby Bueller_007 » January 17th, 2007 3:01 am

Yeah, you probably wouldn't use them together.

"Aitsu" is too direct a word to use in formal Japanese, IMO.

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Postby Outkast » January 20th, 2007 2:02 am

It was just a hypothetical example anyway... (あいつ is for talking "about" people, not "to" people :wink: )

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