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I66: Uta mo umai

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I66: Uta mo umai

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » November 21st, 2014 1:38 am

だって、四次元ポケット持ってるじゃん。ドラミちゃん歌もうまいし。楽しいって。
Datte, Yojigen Poketto motte ru jan. Dorami-chan uta mo umai shi, Tanoshii tte.
Because she has the four-dimensional pocket. Dorami-chan is also good at singing. She's fun, I'm telling you!


Uta - song
umai - skillful

How can a song be skillful? I'd understand "utau koto ga jouzu da shi" because "utau" is a verb, "uta" is not.

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby mmmason8967 » November 22nd, 2014 10:03 am

I think you have to take uta ga umai as a set noun-ga-adjective phrase, like atama ga ii or se ga takai. I suppose you can translate it as "songs are done well" or something like that, in the same way you could translate sakana ga suki as "fish is likeable". Searching for 歌が上手い (uta ga umai) on YouTube leaves you in little doubt that "great singer" is going to be a better translation.

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » November 22nd, 2014 2:01 pm

I don't know how this structure would be used. If "uta" can be used in "good at singing" I wonder if...

"hon ga umai"

...could be used for "good at reading"? Or would it be "good at writing"?

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby community.japanese » November 23rd, 2014 6:27 am

マイケルさん、
どうもありがとうございます。

andycarmenjapanese8100 san,

konnichiwa.
As マイケルさんsaid you have to add a particle.
The actual sentence is ドラミちゃんはorが歌もうまい which means Domami is good at singing.
As you know umai here indicates skilful so the subject must be a person or living thing who can sing.

Unfortunately we don’t say 本が上手い or 読書が上手い.
However, 書くことが上手い is ok. 


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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » November 23rd, 2014 6:30 am

Is there any other sentence where the "<something> ga umai" structure is used other than "uta ga umai"? Can you give some examples, please?

Thanks Yuki.

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby community.japanese » November 23rd, 2014 6:41 am

andycarmenjapanese8100 san,

Examples are

ドラみちゃんは料理が上手い Dorami is good at cooking.
ドラみちゃんはピアノが上手い Dorami is good at playing the piano
ドラみちゃんは書道が上手い Dorami is good at calligraphy.

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » November 23rd, 2014 7:38 am

Those are very clear. Thanks!

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby mmmason8967 » November 23rd, 2014 7:58 am

An interesting variant I came across on Google is 口が上手い, kuchi ga umai, which means smooth-talking, glib or silver-tongued.

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby team.relationships » November 27th, 2014 8:10 am

andycarmenjapanese8100 san,

I'm glad you found Yuki-sensei's examples helpful!
Please let us know if you have any more questions!

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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby eloquentyttop_503553 » January 4th, 2015 4:16 am

hose are very clear. Thanks!












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Re: I66: Uta mo umai

Postby community.japanese » January 4th, 2015 7:33 am

Eloquentyttop さん、
Konnichiwa.
Thank you for the comment.
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