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andycarmenjapanese8100
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Zukuri

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » July 5th, 2013 2:29 am

Lower Intermediate, Series 5, Episode 1:

Japanese:

Wadai zukuri ni mo ii shi.


English:

It'd give you something to talk about.


"Zukuri" isn't in the PDF and I can't find it in an online dictionary.

Is it "conversation"? What is the best way to translate it?

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Re: Zukuri

Postby ericf » July 5th, 2013 7:09 am

wadai is conversation (well, actually it's topic or subject)
zukuri is tsukuri with dakuten marks on the tsu (can also be written dukuri or dzukuri perhaps) from tsukuru, to make
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Re: Zukuri

Postby mmmason8967 » July 5th, 2013 7:12 am

The first syllable isn't ず (the voiced version of su), it's づ (the voiced version of tsu). In romaji it's written as either dzu (voiced tsu) or du (voiced tu). It's pronounced zu though, as in a-dzu-ki beans.

Anyway, you need to search for dukuri or dzukuri.

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Re: Zukuri

Postby mmmason8967 » July 5th, 2013 7:13 am

Blast it! Ninja'ed by Eric again...

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Re: Zukuri

Postby videovillain » July 6th, 2013 3:45 am

zukuri is tsukuri with a colloquial change to the pronunciation (so it flows off the tongue easier). But this only happens when you are connecting tsukuri to a noun, as in wadaizukuri. Otherwise, when used as a verb, it stays in its original form of naninani wo tsukuru.

作り = つくり becomes づくり when attached to a noun like:
わだいづくり に もいいし。 It'd give you something to talk about.

But it could also be said like this without needing the colloquial change:
わだい を つくる の もいいし。 It'd give you something to talk about.

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Re: Zukuri

Postby community.japanese » July 8th, 2013 8:49 am

Andy-san, "ninja" エリックsan, マイケルsan, videovillain-san,
kon'nichiwa! :D

Wonderful explanations, everyone! :D
Just like this word "wadai zukuri", we often make a noun from a verb: tsukuru => tsukuri/zukuri.
For example,
asobu => asobi
tatsu => tachi/dachi
kaku => kaki/gaki

When the original word starts with consonants "k", "s", "t" and "h", there's a possibility of those consonants
becoming "voiced" sound: "g", "z", "d", "b" and "p" :wink:

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