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ever notice that computer kanji comes out korean/chinese?

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dudnaito
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ever notice that computer kanji comes out korean/chinese?

Postby dudnaito » January 11th, 2010 4:39 am

Like 難しい. It's really small, so it's hard to tell, but the "crown" so to speak is closed off like it is in "leather" when in japanese kanji, isn't it open?


Note the difference:

korean: http://hanja.naver.com/hanja?q=%E9%9B%A3


Japanese: http://www.saiga-jp.com/cgi-bin/dic.cgi ... 4183_24119

Yet, when i copy paste, both of them, my computer seems to recognize the korean version moreso than the japanese version.

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Postby goulnik » January 11th, 2010 6:20 am

Are you talking about the 廿 component at the top of 難?
It's definitely 廿, not 艹, certainly in traditional Chinese (it's been simplified to 难).
I guess what you see is just the way that glyph is set up in some sans-serif computer typefaces.

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Postby taikutsu » January 11th, 2010 6:36 am

This is probably an issue related to "Han unification", which may produce a slightly different character if you are using a Chinese of Korean font type.

This explains better than I can:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification

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Postby dudnaito » January 11th, 2010 1:33 pm

i'm saying that it's open in japanese (am i right about that?) In my 2nd link, the japanese online dictionary, it's clearly open.

My ms word, my windows has japanese downloaded, but it shows the closed (korean/chinese) type.

My ? is "how can i fix this or is this just the way it is?"

Even using Anki, it shows the Chinese/Korean type even though it's for JLPT Kanji, so clearly I'm not the only one with this problem.

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Postby goulnik » January 11th, 2010 1:48 pm

The article mentioned by taikutsu says it all, I wasn't aware of this. The issue is that characters that are basically identical but with slight variance in Chinese, Japanese, Korean (CJK) are only represented in computer by a single standard code (Unicode).

The generic glyph is Chinese, so if the web application / browser does not provide specific indications, it will be down to your default font, which seems to be Chinese and not Japanese. I would think that selecting a Japanese font should fix the problem.

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Postby dudnaito » January 12th, 2010 1:39 am

i am using a japanese font... or are you thinking of something else, cause i was talking about the ms word japanese font, and that's just the way it comes out in the hanzi or hanja form instead of the kanji form.

So... conclusion is, it's the just way things are?

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