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ganbou, kibou, shibou???

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kepompong
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ganbou, kibou, shibou???

Postby kepompong » June 19th, 2009 3:49 am

This time is actually not from manga and is for my upcoming exam :P

What's the difference between 願望、希望、志望(and is there any ~望 out there)?
From dictionary all three means wish.

Thanks! :D

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Postby QuackingShoe » June 19th, 2009 5:59 am

願望 uses 願, which is used in such words as お願い(おねがい) and 願書 (an application/petition) and 願 (a prayer). So it's probably more like a classic 'wish' that can be granted, at least in theory. In practice, it's differences from 志望, at least, seems to be mostly idiomatic.

希望 uses 希. It's more like hope, both as 'a hope,' and as the idea of 'hope'. I consider it's opposite to be 絶望, which is despair.

志望 uses 志, which, well, can be used in words like 志(こころざし), which means 'will'. So as you'd expect, it has to do more with willful desire. 志望者 is, for instance, a candidate for something (a 'hopeful,' as we'd say). 志望 on it's own is often used for aspirations, and to describe your 'first choice' for things - for example, your first choice of college.

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Postby Psy » June 19th, 2009 6:23 am

This is a tough one as the dictionary definitions, even in Japanese, have some degree of overlap. Still, this is what I was able to weed out using ALC and the goo dictionary:

願望 = a wish [for a desire]
希望 = a hope [positive future outlook]
志望 = a wish [as one would wish, as an act through will or volition; something aspired to as opposed to dreamed about]

The kanji definitions help make some distinction:

願 = wish
希 = hope
志 = will

That's the best I can do.

*edit*: You're fast, Quacking. Props to you on that one!
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Postby QuackingShoe » June 19th, 2009 7:50 am

There's also 熱望, 要望, and 欲望!

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Postby Psy » June 19th, 2009 5:30 pm

... lest we forget 野望 and 絶望! :lol:
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