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Need some advice, tasukete!

Postby rpgherogaz » March 31st, 2009 5:49 pm

Hey again everyone.


Im working through RTK1, i understand what it does, and why. I know after i wont be able to read Japanese, however, it will set the foundations for learning.

But what to do after RTK1?!?!?!


Apparntly 2001.Kanji.Odessey is good, but is it? anyone here used it at all? Also how would I go about getting the books and CD, and the costs???

Is "Kanji in Context" the way to go instead???

I hear about "kanji De Manga" aswell. I dont mind spending money, but i would like to know which has on average best results.

I am using Genki 1 and 2, japanesePod101 and various grammar books to learn the atual language, but to survive in Japan, I need those 2000 kanji burned into my mind.

If I could get any advice or template for a plan, with how to go about things, or maybe even examples and options, i would be SO SO grateful!!! It means very much to me.

BTW i have anki, i use it for RTK1


EDIT:

I have just read the AJATT method. It seems pretty good.

- Finish RTK1, skip RTK2 but think about doing RTK3
- Gather sentences up from various sources and bung them into a SRS and get to the memory business. This seems ok, i mean i got Genki, JPOD and a few other books i can work through.


i says not to learn single words and english translations, but try to understand it....that seems hard to do doesnt it :)


Thank you,
Gareth

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Postby Javizy » March 31st, 2009 7:27 pm

The sentence thing is definitely the way to go, not just for reading, but for building your vocabulary and understanding sentence structures as well. What you could do is look in a kanji dictionary and find one word for each reading (most characters only have two), you can then copy an example sentence from Jim Breem's online database to an Anki card, and add whatever notes you need to understand it in the answer section. After you know every reading of every character in context, it becomes very easy to guess how to read, or even understand, words that you don't know.

This is just a suggestion, and something I would do/would have done if I could. You're free to add whatever sentences you find in textbooks, manga, etc, but it seems logical to give each character some attention. If you have extra study time, you could start making cards for characters you've already learnt with Heisig, but I wouldn't start reviewing them until you finish the book. It'll give you something to jump straight into when you do.

After reviewing a deck like that for a while, you'll find the progress is rapid, and you can start challenging yourself to read full on kanji text. If you're still learning beginner level constructions and such, you can bridge the gap with furigana manga, JPod PDF's, etc, and by the time you reach an intermediate level, you'll be ready for whatever the language can throw at you.

It probably sounds like a lot of work, and considering the total number of readings is probably in excess of 7000, it'd take about a year at 20 cards per day. However, when you consider that JLPT1 requires 10,000 words, and that you'll also be learning hundreds of functional words and miscellaneous vocabulary in addition to the 7000 words contained in the deck, you'll have taken a massive step towards some sort of fluency with the language. Even if it took you 2 to 3 years, it'd be no small feat. The worst thing is that there doesn't seem to be a premade one of these b***ard things :lol:

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Postby rpgherogaz » March 31st, 2009 8:03 pm

hi again Javizy, and my thoughts exactly


I have been looking for some "sentence anki decks using Heisig kanji etc)

What a valuable resource it would be!

Once i compile my own togther i will share it to the online community i think, to help others.

And THANK YOU for the Jim Breem online database suggestion. I was hoping to find out where to get all these sentences from :).

I find it very confusing though, is there anywhere else you can suggest?

Im going to add all the genki and JPOD sentences in there too, but to find sentences using the same kanji, but differnt readings?? Is there anywhere out there for that?

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Postby rpgherogaz » April 1st, 2009 7:22 pm

Does anyone know of a site that offers free Japanese children text?? Books manga etc
??

Or atleast a site that delivers to England, and is not overpriced??

I know a few sites i buy anime off, any suggestions as to which anime is good for immersion???

Tv shows....documentaries, children cartoons, anything guys, it would be amazing :)

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