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Combining verbs

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Javizy
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Postby Javizy » June 10th, 2008 1:27 pm

I thought this thread was going to be about verbs like 出し抜く, which uses two different verbs to mean something quite different from the original meanings.

Where exactly are you having these problems? By the examples you've given, it seems that it's when you're trying to create Japanese constructions based on English. For example, the verb 'can' is used to form English potential, but Japanese creates the potential by conjugating the verb differently, so combined verbs aren't necessary in this case. The concept of trying is expressed in more than one way in Japanese, neither of which reflect the English.

If you're working through the lessons on here, or a textbook, then carry on with it and you will cover all of these points eventually. Getting a grammar dictionary might be a good idea if you have a good bearing with grammar and just need to look up new points. For the latter, I'd recommend A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar/A Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar by Seiichi Makino.

Of course, if you have any problems on anything in particular, then feel free to post on here and somebody will no doubt help you.

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Postby hatch_jp » June 10th, 2008 2:55 pm

When it is an u-verb, put i instead of u at the last vowel and put a main verb after it.

Example 1; to begin to walk
to begin : はじめる hajimeru
to walk : あるく aruk-u

aruk-u hajimeru → aruk-i hajimeru
あるく はじめる → あるき はじめる


Example 2; to start to read
to start : はじめる hajimeru
to read : よむ yom-u

yom-u hajimeru → yom-i hajimeru
よむ はじめる → よみ はじめる


Example 3: to start running
hashir-u hajimeru → hashir-i hajimeru
はしる はじめる → はしり はじめる



When it is a ru-verb, omit ru at the last and put a main verb after it.

Example 1 ; to begin to eat
to begin : はじめる hajimeru
to eat : たべる tabe-ru

tabe-ru hajimeru → tabe hajimeru
たべる はじめる → たべ はじめる


Example 2 ; to start to see
to start : はじめる hajimeru
to see : みる mi-ru

mi-ru hajimeru → mi hajimeru
みる はじめる → み はじめる



"can" in English is defined as an auxiliary verb.

When it is u-verb, put eru instead of i.
あるく aruk-u → aruk-eru あるける
よむ yom-u → yom-eru よめる
はしる hashir-u → hashir-eru はしれる


When it is ru-verb, put rareru instead of ru.
たべる tabe-ru → tabe-rareru たべられる
みる mi-ru → mi-rareru みられる

"ra" is often omitted these days. So, they would be;
たべる tabe-ru → tabe-reru たべれる
みる mi-ru → mi-reru みれる

These are called "らぬきことば", dropping the ra language.

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hatch_jp
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Postby hatch_jp » June 11th, 2008 1:07 pm

It is very difficult to easily explain intransitive/transitive verb in Japanese.
There are many sites that explain them.
http://www.google.com/search?q=japanese ... gle+Search
I hope some of them are helpful for you.

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