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Is There a Difference Between ゆく and いく?

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Is There a Difference Between ゆく and いく?

Postby toucannyc » February 15th, 2008 5:18 pm

ども!
あたらしいJapanesepod101ききて ですが 日本語を べんきょうしました。そして、もんだが あります。「Survival Lesson」 6番で、「ときょう へ ゆきですか。」を ききましたから、じしょで ゆく を ひきました。じしょで ゆく や いくは、おなじです。さいが ありますか。ありがと。

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Hey!
I’m a new Japanesepod101 listener but I’ve been studying Japanese. Anyway, I have a question. In Survival Lesson 6 I head the phase “tokyo e yuki desuka?” So I look up “yuku” in a dictionary and it said that it was the same as “iku”. Is there a difference? In my class we always used “iku” and “ikimasu”. Thanks in advance.

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P.S. If there are errors in the above Japanese (and I’m sure there are :shock:) then please tell me! And yes, I know Japanese has no spaces but because I don’t know many kanji yet I thought I would make it easier for people and just put spaces because kana alone is hard to read.

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Postby Jason » February 15th, 2008 7:13 pm

No, there is no difference in meaning. Both ゆ and い are possible readings of 行. い is much more common but as you've seen here ゆ does pop up occasionaly.
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Postby Sean » February 15th, 2008 7:35 pm

Summerizing from the usage note on Yahoo! Dictionary, 'yuku' was the more commonly form in the past. But in modern day language, 'iku' has a spoken, conversational feel to it, whereas 'yuku' is used in more literary words.

Althought the phrase you're taking about isn't 東京へ行きですか(とうきょうへゆきですか) but 東京行きですか(とうきょうゆきですか) minus the へ, ゆき being a word for a train, etc. heading for somewhere.

As for the Japanese, here's a couple of suggestions.

>あたらしいJapanesepod101ききて ですが
あたらしい Japanesepod101のききて(リスナー・ちょうしゅしゃ)ですが

I don't know if ききて is used for listeners of a program, something like リスナー or ちょうしゅしゃ might work better IMO.

>そして、もんだが あります。
もんだい

>「Survival Lesson」 6番で、
「Survival Lesson」の第6回で

>じしょで ゆく や いくは、おなじです。
「ゆく」と「いく」

や = implies there are more things to the list, whereas と is for complete lists.

>さいが ありますか。ありがと。
ちがいがありますか

ちがい seems more fitting to me.

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Re: Is There a Difference Between ゆく and いく?

Postby Psy » February 16th, 2008 7:00 am

toucannyc wrote:さいが ありますか。ありがと。

サイがいますよ。 :lol:

There's got to be a better way to get this message out because I always find myself mentioning it: when you ask for a favor, instead of signing off with "thanks" as you do in English, in Japanese you use some variant of よろしくおねがいします。Also, "arigatou" typically has an extended vowel: ありがとう.

And yes, I know Japanese has no spaces but because I don’t know many kanji yet I thought I would make it easier for people and just put spaces because kana alone is hard to read.


You're totally right about that. I've been reading kana for a long time but I still get lost sometimes when people do that. Keep practicing and がんばって! :D
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Postby toucannyc » February 16th, 2008 4:14 pm

Sean wrote:「Survival Lesson」 6番で、
「Survival Lesson」の第6回で


Why would you use 回(かい)? I was under the impression that 回 was for the number of times that something happens in a amount of time. For example: まいしゅう に 2回 日本語クラスへいきます。Every week I go to Japanese class two times. Is this wrong?
よろしくおねがいします。

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Postby Jason » February 17th, 2008 1:22 am

No. It is used in saying how many times something happens in a certain amount of time, but 回 by itself just means "number of times."
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Postby Psy » February 17th, 2008 5:03 am

回 is also commonly used to refer to an episode number. 話(わ) is another counter for Episodes, but I think it might just be for stories and TV shows...
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ありがとう!

Postby toucannyc » February 17th, 2008 3:03 pm

みなさん、ありがとう!いま、ゆくと ゆき と回が わかりました。 :ue:

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