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My first real Japanese usage!

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HelixSundown
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My first real Japanese usage!

Postby HelixSundown » December 22nd, 2007 4:12 pm

Hey everybody. I have been a JPod101 listener for less than a month but I've been studying every day at work. I tried to study Japanese by myself in high school and after I graduated but I never got anywhere with it, it was too challenging to try and do on my own. I'm only in the mid-40s of the Beginner lessons right now but they are SO good and so useful that I have learned and retained more in the last 3 weeks than I did in my MANY previous half-assed years of attempting. JPod101 is great and I tell lots of people about it.

Now I don't personally know a lot of people that speak legit Japanese, but in my hometown where my parents live there is a small restaurant that's run by actual Japanese people. (I knew this from before because I'd heard them speaking it there .) I've been dying to test out my newly-acquired knowledge, and yesterday my eagerness took over so I drove back home under the guise of visiting my family. My real intention was to use my poor victims at "COTO" as a litmus test to see how well I'd do while speaking Japanese. I can totally remember how anxious I was about it, but I was determined to do my best. I have NEVER really tried to speak a language other than English with another person, so this was a big milestone for me.

Turns out I've picked up at least a thing or two, because when I started busting out my best Japanese the lady there was totally surprised and seemed very pleased with me! I was so nervous that I would say something wrong or stumble a lot but I tried to keep my wits about me and I managed to speak at least 75% Japanese throughout. "Mizu kudasai," and "onegai shimasu" and all those dining type phrases managed to come forth during the course of the meal. (There were a few times when I didn't know the words for what I wanted to say so I had to default to English, but I made sure to quickly revert to Japanese again when I could.) When I was done I stated that I was full and, very slowly but very enthusiastically, explained that the unagi nigiri was, "Sugoi oishii! Suki desu, DAI-suki desu!" I had to use the old "yukkuri onegai shimasu" and that sort of thing once or twice; apparently my Japanese was so convincing that she thought she could speak fast-paced native-style with me, much to my alarm. She asked me a couple of questions, some of which I could understand, some not, but that's largely because of my limited vocabulary and my low level of comprehension. No sweat, right? She asked me in English where I learned to speak Japanese, because, in her words exactly, "Your Japanese so good!!" That put a big smile on my face but I protested that my Japanese was terrible. (Looking back I should have used Japanese words to do that as well... damn!) I wish I could remember some of the things she said that I couldn't quite understand, because then I could ask you guys, but alas...

Anyways after I paid the bill and tried to fumble through some small talk, most of which was her speaking and me saying, "soo desu ne" if I couldn't respond otherwise, she told me, "Ganbatte, ne?"

I said, "Ganbarimasu!" It was a ball, I haven't been that pleased with anything for a long time. It was like an early Xmas present. Sorry to clutter up the forum with this, I'm just so excited that I had to talk about it. I'm gonna keep knockin' away at a few lessons every day and then go back and see if I can't do better next time. I am totally hypermotivated now. It gives me great hope for my future learning and future attempts to use what I learn!
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Postby Joey » December 23rd, 2007 5:53 am

Great story :D
I'm sure its things like this that the Jpod101 team lives for: people going out and actually using what they have learned here. I'm proud of you though, the first time I came in contact with my first Japanese native (besides my Japanese teacher) it took me weeks to burst the bubble and start talking to them, you did that all in one night :D So, like she said, Ganbatte HelixSundown-san! :rock:
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Postby jemstone » December 24th, 2007 2:40 am

wow!! you've got courage! everytime i try to speak to a person in their own native language... half the time i chicken out and default to english. it must have been a really good experience!

i should look for japanese restaurants run by japanese people here in singapore too!
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Postby Fedgrub » December 24th, 2007 2:14 pm

Congratulations!

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Postby markystar » December 25th, 2007 6:20 pm

We dooooooooo live for this kind of story!!

that's great!

learning any language isn't easy and of all the easy languages, you had to choose japanese. it's probably one of the hardest for english speakers to learn (vice versa, english is one of the hardest for japanese to learn too, so they understand your spirit!)


i really love the part where she said 頑張ってね! that's so friendly and supportive, she really wanted you to do it!

I wanna know other people's experience in this same situation!!!!!

宜しくお願いします!!!!!!!!!

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Postby HelixSundown » December 27th, 2007 4:06 pm

Thanks for the kind words everybody!
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Postby Psy » December 28th, 2007 1:49 am

You're awesome, man! It takes nerve to do that, especially when things are still so unfamiliar-- but you went with what you had and gained a great experience. Three cheers for successful communication! It only gets better from here...

... if I were to comment on the language, remember that it's sugoku oishii. :)

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Postby HelixSundown » December 28th, 2007 5:28 am

Peter taught me that "sugoi oishii" was also quite viable in such a case, so I used it instead. :P

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Postby Psy » December 28th, 2007 5:56 am

... really? That surprises me, particularly from a grammatical standpoint. :?

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Postby Mike_in_Nano » December 28th, 2007 7:38 am

HelixSundown

Keep at it. I am in Japan and a real Newbie at Japanese. Before I lived in Taiwan ( I am an American) and using ChinesePod did the same just jumped in as soon as I had enough language to start a conversation in controlled settings.

You learn what you really know and what you don't know doing this. It is great. Even better is watching your friends who can not speak stare in amazement. It does take some courage to do this but not as much as standing up and singing Karoke.

Resolve to Speak MORE in the New Year

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Postby HelixSundown » December 28th, 2007 6:09 pm

Psy wrote:... really? That surprises me, particularly from a grammatical standpoint. :?

I learn something new every day.


I would not lie to you my friend. Go back and listen to like... Beginner Lesson #2, or something like that. Maybe it was Survival Phrases #2... regardless it was really early in the lessons. One of the dining ones. My assumption is that it's sort of like how "yabai" can be used to exaggerate things... "yabai oishii" as stated by Chigusa. It's just a simple pairing of two adjectives for emphasis, kind of a casual, borderline-slangy application I'm guessing. I agree it doesn't make sense to you or me but then again, it's not like the English we speak is 100% grammatically correct all the time, now is it?

Mike: That would be a good resolution, I will definitely make it. You are right in that you find out what you know and don't know really fast. Turns out I know hardly anything, I was ready for that. :P But my resolve is steeled.
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Postby WalterWills » December 29th, 2007 1:00 am

Great story! It's times when you're able to speak Japanese to someone, no matter how little, that you feel glad to take time to learn the language.


I remember when I first spoke to someone in Japanese..I approached a young lady, and said something like "Nihonjin desu ka?"....and she just stared at me blankly...

Turns out she was Chinese! I used to think I could tell the difference!

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Postby Psy » December 29th, 2007 5:47 am

HelixSundown wrote:I would not lie to you my friend. Go back and listen to like... Beginner Lesson #2, or something like that.

. . .

then again, it's not like the English we speak is 100% grammatically correct all the time, now is it?


I trust you, mate! It just totally took me off guard because of all the time I've been involved with this language, I never knew people said it that way. You make a good point with the grammar-- ever thought about how "now THAT'S some good eats" would sound to someone learning English?

Anyway, keep it up. It's going to get harder but you're doin' great!

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Postby HelixSundown » December 29th, 2007 10:25 am

Psy wrote:
HelixSundown wrote:I would not lie to you my friend. Go back and listen to like... Beginner Lesson #2, or something like that.

. . .

then again, it's not like the English we speak is 100% grammatically correct all the time, now is it?


I trust you, mate! It just totally took me off guard because of all the time I've been involved with this language, I never knew people said it that way. You make a good point with the grammar-- ever thought about how "now THAT'S some good eats" would sound to someone learning English?

Anyway, keep it up. It's going to get harder but you're doin' great!


Oh okay, my bad. I was just mentioning it in case you wanted to go back and refer to it or something. :P It will get tougher but ah... er... Hell I got nothing else to do. XD

Thanks again for everybody's words of support.
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