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I75: Kite ikanai to

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » February 7th, 2015 12:55 pm

I75:

9. 浩二: あっ!ワイシャツにアイロンはかけといたのか?明日は大事な営業があるんだから、しっかりアイロンかけたシャツを着ていかないと。
9. KŌJI: A! waishatsu ni airon wa kaketoita no ka? Ashita wa daiji na eigyō ga aru n da kara, shikkari airon kaketa shatsu o kite ikanai to.
7. KOJI: Hey! Did you iron my shirt? I have a big sales deal tomorrow, so I have to wear a crisply ironed shirt.


I'm told this is like "~nai to ikenai" - "kinai to ikenai."

However, I'm also told that "~te ikanai to" is not a form that you can use with all verbs. For example "kite ikanai to" is correct but "yasai o tabete ikanai to (I must eat vegatables)" is incorrect.

So, when is it correct, when is it incorrect?

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Re: I75: Kite ikanai to

Postby community.japanese » February 14th, 2015 12:16 pm

andycarmenjapanese8100 san,
konnichiwa.
そのシャツを着ないといけない means “have to wear the shirt”and そのシャツを着て行かないといけない means “have to wear the shirt and go”.
着て行かない means “don’t go with the shirt but wear another shirt”
Is that clear?
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Re: I75: Kite ikanai to

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » February 14th, 2015 3:57 pm

community.japanese wrote:andycarmenjapanese8100 san,
konnichiwa.
そのシャツを着ないといけない means “have to wear the shirt”and そのシャツを着て行かないといけない means “have to wear the shirt and go”.
着て行かない means “don’t go with the shirt but wear another shirt”
Is that clear?
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But if you look at the kanji, the phrase isn't [着て行かないと」. The phrase is [着ていかないと」. I was told by a Japanese friend that it it isn't 「行く」 and doesn't mean [go].

However, if my friend is wrong and it is 「行く」 and does mean [go] then why isn't it written in kanji?

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Re: I75: Kite ikanai to

Postby community.japanese » February 15th, 2015 9:34 am

andycarmenjapanese8100 san,
konnichiwa.
Even though kanji 行く is not used, the meaning is “go”.
I don't know why however, some people don’t use kanji...
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Re: I75: Kite ikanai to

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » February 15th, 2015 4:44 pm

Thanks Yuki, that explains it.

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Re: I75: Kite ikanai to

Postby community.japanese » February 16th, 2015 12:18 pm

andycarmenjapanese8100 san,
konnichiwa.
Douitashimashite. You are welcome.

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