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benbot
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Where to start?

Postby benbot » December 22nd, 2007 11:32 am

Hi Guys,

This might be a really stupid question... but i have just joined up and am wandering where to start...

there are newbie lessons and beginner lessons. But for the total beginner which do you start with?

Thanks in advance
Ben :D

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Postby i_broke_down » December 22nd, 2007 2:37 pm

I think the newbie lesson is probably where you want to start... also learn hiragana and katakana as soon as possible!!!

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Postby jemstone » December 24th, 2007 2:42 am

or if you got the time, you could start with both newbie and beginner season 1. i think they're both standalone and assumes no prior knowledge of japanese.
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Postby benbot » December 24th, 2007 10:48 am

Thanks guys,

yeah been having a look over them both and they both seem like the place to start... just wasn't too sure.

Think i will do that and do both of them together.

Cheers
Ben

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Postby Fedgrub » December 26th, 2007 2:15 am

jemstone wrote:or if you got the time, you could start with both newbie and beginner season 1. i think they're both standalone and assumes no prior knowledge of japanese.


I think Jemstone said it the best. Then when you have the general concept of the language, learn Hiragana and Katakana. Then when you hear the words, the structure of the words will seem so much more familiar to you.

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Re: Where to start?

Postby Ulver_684 » December 29th, 2007 12:30 am

benbot wrote:Hi Guys,

This might be a really stupid question... but i have just joined up and am wandering where to start...

there are newbie lessons and beginner lessons. But for the total beginner which do you start with?

Thanks in advance
Ben :D


Benbot-san! :wink:

I recommend you to do what the JP101 crew/staff recommend here:

http://www.japanesepod101.com/help-center/the-courses/

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Postby phileuro » January 9th, 2008 11:28 am

As a newbie of sorts (I've been listening on and off for a year or so and travel to Japan a couple times a year) one of my issues was that the newbie AND the beginner's don't explain certain other things - like what Hiragana and Katagana ARE for instance!
I know that the podcasts are about learning the language, but even the written material doesn't actually explain these kinds of things. For that I had to go to wikipedia.

Anyway, JP101 is definitely the best language learning resource I have ever come across - and I've been moving and learning languages for 20 years or more. Well done!

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Postby Nihongone Crazy » January 10th, 2008 8:21 pm

I would start with the Beginner lessons. I began with the Newbie lessons, and I was surprised to find that the Beginner lessons are less "advanced" than the Newbie Lessons.

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Postby watermen » January 12th, 2008 8:41 pm

Nihongone Crazy wrote:I would start with the Beginner lessons. I began with the Newbie lessons, and I was surprised to find that the Beginner lessons are less "advanced" than the Newbie Lessons.


Agree, I would recommend to start with the Beginner S1 series. Use newbie as an adjunct. In my experience, you can learn great amount of Japanese just by listening to all 170 beginner lessons. By the time you reach 100, you will know that you have learn a lot.

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Postby kc8ufv » January 12th, 2008 10:11 pm

watermen wrote:
Nihongone Crazy wrote:I would start with the Beginner lessons. I began with the Newbie lessons, and I was surprised to find that the Beginner lessons are less "advanced" than the Newbie Lessons.


Agree, I would recommend to start with the Beginner S1 series. Use newbie as an adjunct. In my experience, you can learn great amount of Japanese just by listening to all 170 beginner lessons. By the time you reach 100, you will know that you have learn a lot.


I remember someone said that if you have gone through 100 lessons, you're not really a beginner anymore. I'm wanting to think it was Natsuko, but I don't remember for sure. (I remember it was a female voice)

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Postby watermen » January 12th, 2008 10:20 pm

Anyway, don't worry where to start, just go and listen..

56 Newbie lessons,
171 Beginner lessons,
56 Beginner S2 lessons,
3 Introduction lessons,
60 Survival Phrases,
2 Sight and Sound lessons

Listen to all 348 lessons (that is really a lot) :P ......

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Postby Snowfall » January 14th, 2008 1:09 pm

I looked at the recommendations by the JPod staff (thanks for the link). I still have a question, however. If I'm not planning to visit Japan any time soon and if I have absolutely no one with whom to practice, should I still do the Survivor Lessons directly after the Introduction? or should I do Intro, Newbie, Beginner and then start fitting the Survivor Lessons in during the Beginner Series? Or does Intro, Survivor, Newbie still make more sense?

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Postby watermen » January 14th, 2008 1:37 pm

Snowfall wrote:I looked at the recommendations by the JPod staff (thanks for the link). I still have a question, however. If I'm not planning to visit Japan any time soon and if I have absolutely no one with whom to practice, should I still do the Survivor Lessons directly after the Introduction? or should I do Intro, Newbie, Beginner and then start fitting the Survivor Lessons in during the Beginner Series? Or does Intro, Survivor, Newbie still make more sense?


If you really want to learn Japanese, why don't you just do everything?

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Postby markystar » January 14th, 2008 2:13 pm

i'll agree with watermen on this, might as well study it all.
there's no right or wrong way to approach the survival phrases.


there are no grammar explanations in the survival phrases. just set phrases.
so if you're not planning to come to japan any time and don't have a chance to speak daily, then you might want to listen to those after you have some newbie grammar under your belt. then you can listen with a different perspective.


on the other hand, they're pretty easy. just rote memorization, and you'll get some great vocab along the way.


you might want to intermix them with the other lessons.

again, no right or wrong way to do it.
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Postby Snowfall » January 14th, 2008 3:03 pm

watermen wrote:If you really want to learn Japanese, why don't you just do everything?


Because obviously I can't do it all at once. Therefore I'm trying to find the most logical sequence.

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