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Small problems with I52

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andycarmenjapanese8100
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Small problems with I52

Postby andycarmenjapanese8100 » May 11th, 2014 2:30 am

These are so small that I almost feel like I'm wasting your time by asking for help with them but I am obsessive about trying to understand everything in a lesson. ;)

I'm sure I've seen this before but I can't find anything to verify it...

はい、3番の窓口になります
Hai, 3 ban no madoguchi ni narimasu.
Counter number three.


"Ni narimasu" is used with honorific verbs such as, "O-tabako wa o-sui-ni-narimasu ka?" However here it seems to be being used as "desu." Does "ni narimasu" mean "desu"? If not, what does it mean here?

本日、運転免許証やパスポートなどの身分証明書はお持ちですか?
Honjitsu, untenmenkyoshō ya pasupōto nado no mibunshōmeisho wa o-mochidesu ka?
Do you have a driver's license, passport, or some other type of ID with you today?


I know "untenmenkyo" is "driving licence" and I'm guessing that "untenmenkyoshō" is the driving licence as a piece of paper, the actual physical object?

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Re: Small problems with I52

Postby mmmason8967 » May 12th, 2014 7:39 am

andycarmenjapanese8100 wrote:
はい、3番の窓口になります
Hai, 3 ban no madoguchi ni narimasu.
Counter number three.

"Ni narimasu" is used with honorific verbs such as, "O-tabako wa o-sui-ni-narimasu ka?" However here it seems to be being used as "desu." Does "ni narimasu" mean "desu"? If not, what does it mean here?

I think it's being used to mean what it says: "will become". In the dialogue, the speaker says this and then explains that the other person needs to fill in the paperwork before going to counter number three. So it will be counter number three, but it isn't yet.

本日、運転免許証やパスポートなどの身分証明書はお持ちですか?
Honjitsu, untenmenkyoshō ya pasupōto nado no mibunshōmeisho wa o-mochidesu ka?
Do you have a driver's license, passport, or some other type of ID with you today?

I know "untenmenkyo" is "driving licence" and I'm guessing that "untenmenkyoshō" is the driving licence as a piece of paper, the actual physical object?

I'm pretty sure that's right: the last kanji, 証 (shou/akashi), is evidence, proof or certificate.

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Re: Small problems with I52

Postby community.japanese » May 15th, 2014 11:28 pm

マイケルさん

いつも説明をどうもありがとうございます。


andycarmenjapanese8100 さん、
I think you should pay attention to sentence structures more.

1. はい、3番の 窓口 に なります
noun ni narimasu is same as “noun desu”

お煙草を お  すい  に なりますか。
    Honorific  verb stem ni narimasu is totally different from the sentence structure above.

2. As マイケルさん said that is 免許証 which looks like a card.


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